Get your CTCSS tones right to access repeaters
One of the things that many newcomers to FM and repeater operation fail to do when programming a radio is to program the CTCSS tone properly. There’s even a question on the Technician Class exam that addresses this issue, question T2B04:
QUESTION: Which of the following could be the reason you are unable to access a repeater whose output you can hear?
ANSWER: All of these choices are correct
But, what does this mean really?
CTCSS stands for continuous, tone-coded squelch system, and is a technique used to allow repeaters—and radios—to receive particular signals and reject others. The signals that a repeater (or radio) will receive are signals with a specific sub-audible tone, called a CTCSS tone, that has been added to the signal. So, even though your radio may be transmitting and receiving on the correct frequencies for a particular repeater, you won’t be able to access the repeater if you’re not also transmitting the CTCSS tone the repeater has been programmed to respond to.
There are 55 standard CTCSS tones:
67 | 97.4 | 141.3 | 177.3 | 213.8 |
69.3 | 100 | 146.2 | 179.9 | 218.1 |
71.9 | 103.5 | 150 | 183.5 | 221.3 |
74.4 | 107.2 | 151.4 | 186.2 | 225.7 |
77 | 110.9 | 156.7 | 189.9 | 229.1 |
79.7 | 114.8 | 159.8 | 192.8 | 233.6 |
82.5 | 118.8 | 162.2 | 196.6 | 237.1 |
85.4 | 123 | 165.5 | 199.5 | 241.8 |
88.5 | 127.3 | 167.9 | 203.5 | 245.5 |
91.5 | 131.8 | 171.3 | 206.5 | 250.3 |
94.8 | 136.5 | 173.8 | 210.7 | 254.1 |
Why do we use CTCSS tones? One of the reasons repeaters use CTCSS tones is that they often operate in environments where there is a lot of interference. On a tower or rooftop, for example, there may be several repeaters, a paging system, and other RF equipment. In such an environment, the generation of spurious signals could cause the repeater to think it’s receiving a signal on its input frequency and turn on its transmitter. If a sub-audible tone is required, however, the repeater will remain off until it hears a signal that was definitely meant to be repeated.
Another reason for using CTCSS tones is to prevent interference from other repeaters that use the same repeater frequency pair. Although care is often taken to minimize this interference, sometimes long-distance propagation can cause stations accessing a repeater to also access one many miles away. If the two repeaters use different CTCSS tones, however, this is not a possiblity.
How do you know what CTCSS tone you need to access a particular repeater? Well, one way to do this would be to check a repeater directory. If the repeater is operated by an amateur radio club, you could look up this information on the club’s website. Some repeaters will even announce the CTCSS tone that it requires. In most cases, the objective is to reduce interference and not restrict legitimate access.
So, if you’re not hitting a repeater when you think you should be, first check to see that you’re transmitting the correct CTCSS tone. Refer to your radio’s user manual for instructions on how to do this.
By the way, you may hear CTCSS tones sometimes called PL tones. PL is short for “private line,” and is what Motorola, the company that developed the CTCSS system called it. Since PL is a Motorola trademark, we now use the generic term CTCSS.
Comments (10)
When I transmit ptput, get the squlesh. I get a audible tone on anotherradio. Is this normal?
when i transmit through a handset i caint receive any voice note on the other handset but the voice note is heard at the repeater control receiving set box. what could be the problem?
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You can go to Baofang menu for R-CTCSS enter any value then save, then enter option again and press SCAN twice it will scan for transmitted CTCSS code on tbe channel.
Than use that code in T-CTCSS to be able to transmit.
My repeater tone is 311 DPL, I can’t find it in the menu…..please help
I don’t think I have CTCSS tone properly programmed because it does not activate the repeater.
Book instructions make no sense, instructions here are leaving something out.
I have t-ctcs tones, but my uv-5g will not let me add them to repeater channels 23 through 30. It’s like the 30 pre programmed channels are locked down. So basically I can only use this radio in simplex. Kind of a useless radio.
That is a quirk with that radio (and not a model we sell) – the GMRS-V2 is your ticket to a far superior radio without those quirks!
Is it possible to program or type in a tone not on the list? A repeater in my area apparently uses a non-standard dcs tone not already on my K5+
Thanks
I am trying to set repeater tx. tone which is dcs 23 however my betech only has 023N which doesn’t seem to work. what I doing wrong if anything. Any suggestions.